I
STRETCHED MY IMAGINATION, and found it strange to contemplate what it would be
like if I was not able to walk into a record store and physically buy music
anymore; if our record stores were replaced by mere digital cafes, for us to
sit and stare at snow white computer screens lacking in character and for us to
click our way to musical satisfaction - no frustrating plastic packaging to
brawl with and no tangible cover booklets to peruse. It isn’t incredulous to
say that record stores could die and find their remnants tumble weeding through
a record store mausoleum of memories in the very near future.
KEBA: Do you think that records are important to the process of listening to music?
MARK WEINSTEIN: Well,
it’s different for everybody so it’s hard to make a broad statement like that.
But certainly for people who really care about an artist, it’s the best way to
experience their music for sure because it’s sort of like the best hard copy or
master copy you can have of a musician’s art.
So, you know, it kind of represents a real commitment to the artist to
have the LP. And to experience the art of the music that way is the biggest
commitment you can make to the artist compared to, obviously, MP3’s.
MW: I don’t at all, personally. Never
have. It’s not really a stance that I’m taking it’s just that I like, you know,
I’ve got enough CDs and records to keep me busy for the rest of my life. And the
convenience factor is not such a big issue for me. It’s really a convenience
thing why people download files. I can
see, on a convenience level why it’s a good thing to have. But it’s not the way
I like to experience it myself.
K:
So, since the internet has become so popular and downloading music have sales
at Amoeba gone down at all?
MW: Um…especially in this Berkeley store,
they have gone down some. But in San
Francisco and especially in LA, they haven’t gone down at all really. Like in LA,
where whole families come into the store and spread out and shop in our store,
but this [Berkeley] is a very student
oriented area and students either want MP3s or they want vinyl. They don’t even want CDs anymore.
K:
Do you think that record shops will ever go away? Kind of like how books now –
like, have you heard of the Kindle?
MW: Yeah I know about it, it’s like the
iPod for books.
K:
Yeah, do you think record shops will ever totally disappear?
MW: Well, I think most of them already
have. I don’t think it’ll get any worse than it is now. But, in that respect, I think that there is
always going to be a market for record stores.
Not only for, cool collectable things, but, you know, just a place to go
hang out where people are into music.
You know, hard copies will always be desired by people who are into an
artist. So you know, I don’t think that
– I mean, I’m sure we’ll be some of the last one’s standing. There just aren’t that many left. I think 75%
of all the record stores in the US are gone.
K: Yeah,
I know of two around were I live that have closed…
MW: Where are you calling from?
K:
Philadelphia.
MW: Yeah, I know, I noticed, I heard about
stores that closed recently in Philly.
Yeah it’s really sad, especially when the combination of a community not
supporting a store and the store itself being in a rut or falling into holes
financially, all those things can close a store. One of the iconic cultural
resources that they grew up with. And that’s brutal. But you know, it’ll somewhat continue to
happen and I think, unfortunately, bookstores will go the same way as record
stores. What’ll be left are a few good
ones. That’ll be it.
K:
Especially independent ones.
MW: Yeah, oh, we’re finding online – we’re
building a website ourselves. It has
been interesting to find out that the cost of building a significant digital
downloading site is so vast that no independent store could even have a chance
at it on their own; and that’s really sad. It’s all centralized, all the power,
with the big corporations as usual. That’s what’s happening. It’s pathetic.
K: So
why did you start Amoeba in the first place?
MW: Well, a lot of reasons. But mainly, I
got a record store job when I was in high school and it’s all I’ve ever done my
whole life. The kind of passion that
people have for their music and—I just felt like, you’re going to have to live
in society and sell something for a living. You know, that’s something that you
can really believe in. It’s art and it’s also affordable. It’s not like working
in an art gallery, you know. It’s beautiful art and you can have it for ten
bucks, and it’s a great thing. I just love being in a place where people are
getting stuff that’s going to make them happy. ◊